That the four of you made a decision like this, one that could have major repercussions for all of us, and decided on behalf of everyone else that it was worth it.
[But he thinks, from her expression, that he made his point, and so he doesn't press further for now. Instead, he decides to comment more broadly.]
There's a trend here--not just this specific instance--of individual Displaced deciding that they know better than anyone else, and so they can make whatever choices they want no matter what might come of it. Even if they tell everyone else what they're doing, they're completely set on it and it's a matter of giving notice, not entertaining discussion, because they've already decided they know best.
[And that said, he finally crosses his arms, giving an annoyed shrug.]
I'm getting a little tired of people treating being here like it's some low-stakes game where they can just take whatever risks they feel like, as though it doesn't affect all of us.
I'm sure you weren't, but I doubt you were thinking of it as high-stakes either.
[But he can, again, tell that he's made his point here, and at least she seems to care.]
But like I said, it's done, so now we all need to be prepared to deal with what might come out of it. The others need to know what you found out, and that there's a potential problem with Riverstone.
[It's not like she wasn't planning on doing that anyway, so that doesn't throw her so much. What's tangling her up right now is that he seems so deeply disappointed in her.]
I think you should've put more thought into your decision.
[But that isn't the same thing as being an idiot. Being an idiot is far more simple; he's so disappointed because he knows she isn't stupid, or careless, or ignorant. She's none of those things, but chose to make a decision like this anyway.]
[He knows she means it, and at this point he thinks she understands why he's upset; even though she still doesn't actually owe him an apology specifically, this time he decides not to say that.]
I know. It's okay.
[Making her feel guilty isn't going to help, and although he's genuinely frustrated with her actions, it's part of a greater issue that her part of is comparatively very small. He doesn't have any reason or desire to stay upset with her.]
None of us knew what they actually wanted, and the plan was just to wait and see what happened. If they were actually looking to do something with our DNA or something, we'd be fucked. They'd already have it, and we wouldn't know until it came back to bite us.
We know that's not what they're doing, right? And if it were, at least we'd know and be able to plan instead of just... arguing about what ifs for weeks on the network.
Do you really think anyone here is going to plan anything?
[The slightly scathing tone isn't directed at her, and that's hopefully clear by that his expression doesn't shift with the statement as it would if he were directing a comment like that at her.
But that said--]
I mean, knowing is something valuable, yes. It's just a matter of whether it's valuable enough to outweigh the risk and potential consequences, and it's too early to say that for sure.
[Kyna deflates, looking away again. She could argue that clearly there are some people who want to plan, like the group she worked with and Ian, but it doesn't feel like there's a point.]
[He frowns a little at that response, and more specifically at her reaction itself, trying to read what exactly prompted it. After a moment, he shifts topics slightly and decides to ask--]
You said you didn't tell anyone because Ren said not to, but why did he think you shouldn't and why did you agree?
Ren said that with that whole Judas deal, people were actively trying to sabotage each other. Like, really trying to fuck each other over. He was afraid that would happen again, you know? That if we came to everyone or word got out, someone would try to screw us over or make their own deal or something, and we'd get hurt.
[Which is the main thing, she thinks. She could tell that mess really stuck with Ren from the way he talked about it.]
Plus, he thinks the same thing you do—no one ever wants to plan, they just want to argue, and no one actually does anything.
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:13 am (UTC)Do you think we shouldn't?
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:16 am (UTC)[At least there's that.]
You think this was a huge screw up, don't you?
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:18 am (UTC)[No point in denying that.]
But that's not exactly the biggest problem I have with it.
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:20 am (UTC)What's the biggest problem?
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:30 am (UTC)They're only mad at us, not everyone.
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:41 am (UTC)[But he thinks, from her expression, that he made his point, and so he doesn't press further for now. Instead, he decides to comment more broadly.]
There's a trend here--not just this specific instance--of individual Displaced deciding that they know better than anyone else, and so they can make whatever choices they want no matter what might come of it. Even if they tell everyone else what they're doing, they're completely set on it and it's a matter of giving notice, not entertaining discussion, because they've already decided they know best.
[And that said, he finally crosses his arms, giving an annoyed shrug.]
I'm getting a little tired of people treating being here like it's some low-stakes game where they can just take whatever risks they feel like, as though it doesn't affect all of us.
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:45 am (UTC)I wasn't— I wasn't thinking of it as low-stakes.
[She thought Ren's idea would help, but he's right, isn't he?]
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:49 am (UTC)[But he can, again, tell that he's made his point here, and at least she seems to care.]
But like I said, it's done, so now we all need to be prepared to deal with what might come out of it. The others need to know what you found out, and that there's a potential problem with Riverstone.
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:53 am (UTC)[It's not like she wasn't planning on doing that anyway, so that doesn't throw her so much. What's tangling her up right now is that he seems so deeply disappointed in her.]
You think I'm a total idiot, don't you?
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Date: 2020-10-30 08:56 am (UTC)[But that isn't the same thing as being an idiot. Being an idiot is far more simple; he's so disappointed because he knows she isn't stupid, or careless, or ignorant. She's none of those things, but chose to make a decision like this anyway.]
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Date: 2020-10-30 09:03 am (UTC)[She says it again, softer this time, because she doesn't know what else to say.]
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Date: 2020-10-30 09:07 am (UTC)I know. It's okay.
[Making her feel guilty isn't going to help, and although he's genuinely frustrated with her actions, it's part of a greater issue that her part of is comparatively very small. He doesn't have any reason or desire to stay upset with her.]
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Date: 2020-10-30 09:10 am (UTC)[She's still not entirely sure he's not upset with her, but there isn't much she can do about that.]
You think people have been treating things like they're low-stakes?
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Date: 2020-10-30 09:25 am (UTC)I think people haven't been putting the level of consideration into their choices, the situation, or really anything else that they should be, yes.
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Date: 2020-10-31 02:25 am (UTC)[The slightly scathing tone isn't directed at her, and that's hopefully clear by that his expression doesn't shift with the statement as it would if he were directing a comment like that at her.
But that said--]
I mean, knowing is something valuable, yes. It's just a matter of whether it's valuable enough to outweigh the risk and potential consequences, and it's too early to say that for sure.
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Date: 2020-10-31 02:31 am (UTC)I guess not.
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Date: 2020-10-31 02:42 am (UTC)You said you didn't tell anyone because Ren said not to, but why did he think you shouldn't and why did you agree?
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Date: 2020-10-31 02:54 am (UTC)[Which is the main thing, she thinks. She could tell that mess really stuck with Ren from the way he talked about it.]
Plus, he thinks the same thing you do—no one ever wants to plan, they just want to argue, and no one actually does anything.
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