[Lance decides not to say any of the things he's currently thinking of, because he doesn't really think any of what he'd most like to bring up would go anywhere. Instead, he contemplates how to continue, finally deciding on--]
So what now, then? How do you think that, with everything we know now, we should proceed?
[ there's a quiet pause, and Ren looks somewhat contemplative. then, he says: ]
We turn it around. Riverstone wants us for a reason.
[ they're valuable for a reason, right? not just Riverstone, Cassius, and Grey, they all are entangled in a web of push and pull because everyone wants something from them. ]
Whoever's up for it, we need to refine our powers, and learn how to take control of our dreams. If there's a big dream with everyone in it—then we need to find out if we can tap into that.
Leveraging our position, and whatever value we have, can be very effective. But, and I'm sure I'm sounding like a broken record at this point, it has to be done carefully because it can easily backfire. Especially since Riverstone knows we're aware of their actual interests, beyond just our powers.
[And it's a lot more difficult to manipulate people who are aware of it, which goes both directions; with the Displaced aware of Riverstone's intentions, it's difficult for Riverstone to twist things to their benefit. But, in reverse, it's also very difficult for the Displaced to try to use that implied value when Riverstone knows they're aware of the truth.]
But I agree, in the sense of practicing our powers and trying to better control dreams, especially since the latter seem to have very real and potentially widespread effect. The more we can do with them, the better.
[ isn't that what was argued in that post? they didn't have "proof" that Riverstone was underhanded. they do now, he doesn't regret that. ]
We're not going to win a game they've already rigged. Politics, paperwork—they've got the upperhand in all of that. We need to work where our strengths are. That's our powers, and the dreams.
[ and ok, that's kinda messing things up. but heeeey. ]
[He's not going to bother arguing on the first part, since he doesn't think it'll get anywhere, so instead he focuses on the second.]
It's also our experiences. There are some--or many--ways that being from other worlds puts us at a disadvantage here, but there are others were it's the opposite. We have a wider range of experiences, knowledge, and ways of thinking than could be found in people from only one world; some of that isn't useful, or may even be detrimental, but not all of it. It's also an advantage that, even if Riverstone or anyone else actually knew about, they still couldn't predict.
[ this isn't the Phantom Thieves, he knows that. there's a distinction between him and Lance, and him and the rest of the group that had put themselves on the line for social reform.
part of moving past something was knowing your position.
there's a quiet, even tone to his voice. he thinks of what Clarke's told him, of Cassius and Judas, and then Grey taking constant advantage of their position. ]
It makes us predictable now. To use that experience, we would need to make sure that the result doesn't depend on a handful of people. We don't need to unite, but we need to a level of trust. Not just in each other, but in the regular people of this world.
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So what now, then? How do you think that, with everything we know now, we should proceed?
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We turn it around. Riverstone wants us for a reason.
[ they're valuable for a reason, right? not just Riverstone, Cassius, and Grey, they all are entangled in a web of push and pull because everyone wants something from them. ]
Whoever's up for it, we need to refine our powers, and learn how to take control of our dreams. If there's a big dream with everyone in it—then we need to find out if we can tap into that.
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[And it's a lot more difficult to manipulate people who are aware of it, which goes both directions; with the Displaced aware of Riverstone's intentions, it's difficult for Riverstone to twist things to their benefit. But, in reverse, it's also very difficult for the Displaced to try to use that implied value when Riverstone knows they're aware of the truth.]
But I agree, in the sense of practicing our powers and trying to better control dreams, especially since the latter seem to have very real and potentially widespread effect. The more we can do with them, the better.
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[ isn't that what was argued in that post? they didn't have "proof" that Riverstone was underhanded. they do now, he doesn't regret that. ]
We're not going to win a game they've already rigged. Politics, paperwork—they've got the upperhand in all of that. We need to work where our strengths are. That's our powers, and the dreams.
[ and ok, that's kinda messing things up. but heeeey. ]
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It's also our experiences. There are some--or many--ways that being from other worlds puts us at a disadvantage here, but there are others were it's the opposite. We have a wider range of experiences, knowledge, and ways of thinking than could be found in people from only one world; some of that isn't useful, or may even be detrimental, but not all of it. It's also an advantage that, even if Riverstone or anyone else actually knew about, they still couldn't predict.
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[ this isn't the Phantom Thieves, he knows that. there's a distinction between him and Lance, and him and the rest of the group that had put themselves on the line for social reform.
part of moving past something was knowing your position.
there's a quiet, even tone to his voice. he thinks of what Clarke's told him, of Cassius and Judas, and then Grey taking constant advantage of their position. ]
It makes us predictable now. To use that experience, we would need to make sure that the result doesn't depend on a handful of people. We don't need to unite, but we need to a level of trust. Not just in each other, but in the regular people of this world.