Ren said that with that whole Judas deal, people were actively trying to sabotage each other. Like, really trying to fuck each other over. He was afraid that would happen again, you know? That if we came to everyone or word got out, someone would try to screw us over or make their own deal or something, and we'd get hurt.

[Which is the main thing, she thinks. She could tell that mess really stuck with Ren from the way he talked about it.]

Plus, he thinks the same thing you do—no one ever wants to plan, they just want to argue, and no one actually does anything.