[Everything Rosen is saying is still pretty normal, if not exactly a great way of handling things, at least until he gets to the part about using Danielle's ability to try to manipulate the situation. That's... Something that's obviously and clearly wrong in a way that makes Lance feel unsettled, but he pushes that aside for now to focus on the big picture.]

You don't need me to tell you which parts of what you did are wrong.

[It's soft, as nonjudgmental as he can manage; Lance is pretty sure Rosen knows exactly what he did wrong, from what he's been saying. But that doesn't mean the overall conclusion he's come to correct, and that's what Lance is trying to address for now.

He's quiet another few seconds before he shifts a little to rest his elbows on the table, leaning forward while he speaks.]

I've met people who don't care; people who were completely and utterly only concerned with their own desires and needs, some of whom were relatively benign and some of whom did horrific things.

[He pauses once more, trying to make eye contact again.]

But what was universal among them is that they didn't feel guilt. They didn't feel remorse. And none of them ever accepted blame for their actions, or tried to change them.